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Ok, I am sure most of us know about the ghost house. Driving past the turning to the Daan Viljoen Park and continue for several kilometers along the gravel road you will see it on your left hand side.
I have heard many stories, and they all vary.
Does anyone know the real story?
Even the origin of the house is in question.
Here is what I have heard:
1) The house was originally built during the German colonial period in 1911 to house the farm managers of the Karl Liebig Company, which specialised in cattle breeding. (According to Namibweb.com) The other story is that Karl Liebig built the house for his family.
But where do the ghosts come from?
The story that I have heard is that it was a rehabilitation center during WW1 and that German soldiers who got drunk on the front were sent there, and that some of them actually committed suicide.
Now it is your turn. If you have any info please feel free to share!
Thank you =]
that there is a man who goes there quite regularly and is always met by a little girl who "takes" him by the hand when they go inside. He has seen several men, especially on the first floor, but says he's often too scared to go upstairs.
And that's all I know, sorry! There's no way I'll go there, just driving past is eerie enough.
Posted 29 Apr 2009 by shaggy
we missioned around in the house and even went upstairs and down into the cellar... it was a bit scary but nothing out of the ordinary happened.. there were a few baboons in the vacinity but no little girl or anything like that...
what a wonderful womf though... i do hope we get to the bottom of this..:)
Posted 29 Apr 2009 by beans
An intriguing feature along this route is the once-resplendent Liebig Haus, its crumbling grandeur a reminder of a bygone era. It was built in 1912 on Farm Neu Heusis as a residence for the director of the Deutsche Farmgesellschaft (German Farmers’ Society). In 1944 the South African government confiscated the farm and subdivided it into smaller farms, which were given to ex-soldiers after the Second World War. Liebig House was inhabited until 1955, after which it fell into disuse, was plundered by vandals and became the ’ghost house’ it is today.
I have also heard the story of the little girl who meets the man, but she is afraid to go upstairs that Shaggy is referring to.
As far as I know, but I speak under correction here, the 'halfway house' for the German soldiers is further down the road. It is a rough stone building, but I have only been to that one once before.
That is the story I was told at the time though.
Posted 29 Apr 2009 by zetien
The History of the Ghost House (Liebig House)
Anyone who has driven past the turning to the Daan Viljoen Park and continued for several kilometres along the gravel road will have seen a large dilapidated building on their left hand side.
Many people living in Windhoek know it as a ghost house and it is common to see people using it as a place to braai. Yet while the existence of the ruined house is widely known, the history and the identity of the ghosts who might inhabit it is not.
The site still displays signs of the extravagant wealth of its former occupants. The lounge, the walls of which have been painted in recent years with artistic prints, still contains the remains of a large fireplace. The garden apparently once featured a statue, a fountain and an ornamental carved fish from which water flowed into a pond.
The house was originally built during the German colonial period in 1911 to house the farm managers of the Karl Liebig Company, which specialised in cattle breeding.
One of the managers who lived in the house was Alexander Scotland who served as a British secret agent in Namibia during the German period. Scotland claims in his autobiography to have been given an appointment in the German Schutztruppe and to have been responsible for encouraging the guerrilla leader Johannes Christian to agree to a ceasefire with the Germans on December 23, 1906.
However, in 1914, after providing details of the positions of German troops in southern Namibia, Scotland was arrested and imprisoned. After the German defeat by South Africa in 1915 (during World War One), Scotland left Namibia, but continued his work in military intelligence. In 1947 he served as the Chief Officer of the War Crimes Investigation Unit which compiled evidence for use in the Nuremberg trials against Nazi war criminals at the end of World War II.
The impressive house (on 'Neu-Heusis' farm) seems to have provided the headquarters for the management of all the land purchased by the Liebig company. 'Liebig's Extract of Meat Company of London' had purchased 210 000 hectares of land in the Khomas Hochland on September 18, 1907. Perhaps readers know whether the company had any connection with the beef-flavoured drink, Bovril, which was very popular in Britain at this time and based on 'extract of meat'.
In 1939, the South African Government bought the land from the Liebig Company. Sixty-five farms were apparently created from the land and were used to settle farmers from the Union of South Africa at the end of World War II.
In 1945, the 'ghost house' was sold to the Courtney-Clark family. It is not clear when the house was finally abandoned and what is its current fate. The large windows of the house provide beautiful panoramic views across the veld, whilst a deep rocky river gorge bisected by an old dam can be found a short walk away from the house. Perhaps readers know more about the history of the house and its occupants. Or perhaps people might suggest whether they feel the house should be preserved, redeveloped or allowed to continue to decay. After all, one might argue that the beauty of the building is in the way that the elements have worn the surfaces, while the wind hammers the loose corrugated iron sheets on the roof, as if to conjure up the ghosts of Alexander Scotland and the other former residents of the isolated farmhouse.
The name seems to derive from the Khoekhoegowab word ||Hoeses. The word refers to a deep chasm and indeed such a chasm can be found a couple of hundred yards downhill from the farmhouse. Professor Haacke of the African Languages Department of the University of Namibia has pointed out that the local Damara community in this area were also known as the '||Hoesedaman'.
Posted 29 Apr 2009 by another
to everyone for your info so far. I love reading your comments =]
Another, I did find that, but it still does not explain where the ghosts come from. But even that origin does not correspond to some in other publications. SO which one to believe???
That is why I posted this link. To not only hear about the experiences with the spooks, but I am also hoping someone out there might have the real origins and share it with us. I am very curious to find the truth behind the stories.
Posted 29 Apr 2009 by pinky22
I do believe in ghosts , and I just love all the stories about ghosts , I am so interested in it I actually want to start ghost hunting. This is what happened , we were at a rumparty at Fredenau dam after a few drinks all the guys got into a car and went to the ghost house, it was in the night and we only had lighters with us to provide light, we walked in the dark and because alchol make you brave we did not even walked in a group , and we explored the whole house , every person on his own , I must admit thet we scared sometimes the shit out of each other for fun .........but I can say that nothing weird happened that night. I am actually very open to the unexplained.
Posted 29 Apr 2009 by another
OK I heard the story from him back in the 90's he is sort of socially down but knows alot but this is what I remember:
there are three houses involved:
house 1 : liebig
house 2 : the so called drunken soldier house
house 3 : family house
I never cared about who owned it etc. however the story is what had my interest:
now if any of you saw house two it is made of stole piled walls special thanks to vandals for recent alterations to these monuments but house 3 was built close to house 2 on a riverbank quickest way to find it is to look for a broken damn structure.
this is the history of house 2 & 3
OK house 2 was used to house "Impure Germans" WTF are those? soldiers who's family have abandoned Germany at time of war do not have blond hair or blue eyes. these soldiers are only used for two purposes to fight in the front or do intense labour they are not aloud in structures such as house liebig without permission and even then rarely in living quarters.
In house 3 a family lived who cleaned the living quarters etc. so on now one night heavy rain came broke the damn and tore away a huge chunk in the banks taking the house done with it 3 of the family members drowned under the mud and stone this included the father and daughter FYI.
now other than that what is said by zetien according to what my friend said is most accurate.
however it's mostly the mystery that keeps it interesting not the facts
Posted 29 Apr 2009 by unknown-user
try going there when you're sober Zetien. Not being judgemental, just know that its far easier to see ghosts when you're sober than when drunk. And, if a spirits intention is not too hot, its easy for them to mess with you while you're drunk. It would be great to hear what your opinion is after you've been at the house, I reckon you're pretty down to earth and sufficiently sceptical.
Posted 29 Apr 2009 by shaggy
Hi Shaggy,
I didn't go to the Liebig house while under the influence - lol
Posted 29 Apr 2009 by zetien
It's ok, I don't think you'll be moderated for that... haha!
Posted 29 Apr 2009 by shaggy
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